Sunday, December 13, 2020

Great video and Discussion about "wise men" Astrologers of the Bible




 @Ezekiel 33:3  Great info from your research. I am also going to post this to and The Magi visiting the Messiah, it is said, were guided by "the star". This has been a burgeoning question with no conclusive answer, there are many theories and beliefs. The Star which appeared over the region of Bethlehem, was it a star, as we understand stars today, or was it a planet, a conjunction of planets, or was it a comet? You mentioned Jupiter and Saturn which came up from your research. In my opinion, I tend to not put much emphasis on that pairing, since those two planets meet up every 20 years approx. Since the arrival of the Messiah was a rare event, I would think that whatever was the star, would only occur once every millennium or less frequently.

VIDEO is below.... 


It is apparently the fact that these wise men (12 of them or less) were of the occupation of astrologers. Now that is not exactly like the astrologers of the present-day. They used a different method and also had a very different mindset and reception by the society around them. The astrologers were probably Chaldeans or Babylonians, or Chaldeans from Babylon (if that makes any sense - because what were Chaldeans?).

As a result of this basic premise, that they were astrologers, the entire narrative around their seeking of the Messiah by their following of stars, would seem to mean that they studied the positions of the stars and found out that there was a significant event to occur. That is essentially the work of the astrologer. So the transliteration of "following stars" or the star stopped over Bethlehem, could simply mean that they fine-tuned their interpretation of the astrological knowledge and determined the exact occurrence.

It is also important to note that they did not pinpoint Bethlehem until they consulted with King Herod; for he was the one who directed them towards Bethlehem and wanted them to look there. On the way from the Eastern region traveling westwards, they did not know the exact town. Also note, that we are assuming the locations of these two places, but none of that is conclusively proven. Those were locations and towns in the Ancient day and there has not been enough archeological evidence.


  1. @MilkyyMedia that was some really fantastic feedback. Thank you.

    I am curious to poke around more with some online astrology tools. The Saturn / Jupiter conjunction happens every 20 years but I thought that the triple conjunction might make the situation much more rare. Going into the exploration, I was expecting something involving Venus.

    I noticed many years ago the Order of the Eastern Star had a motto that said "We have seen his star in the East and have come to worship him". Their logo is an upside down pentagram so I assumed that Venus would have something to do with the Star of Bethlehem. I also noticed the Vatican depicts this star with 8 points which reminds me once again of Venus because it takes 8 years for Venus to make pentagram.

    Perhaps if Saturn and Jupiter aren't the right direction that there would be a conjunction with Venus that would be extremely rare within the 1BC to 10BC.

    Hopefully the tool I am using is dependable as well.
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    @Ezekiel 33:3 There are many questions and it seems that all the possible answers, lead to even more questions. But the addition of Venus might have or might not have to do with "the star". As I keep wondering, it could have more to do with other aspects, not merely the conjunction. It doesn't necessarily mean that the star was bunched up in one point of the sky. That is the traditional visualization. However, it most likely nothing to do with what the astrologers discovered.
    It is quite a bit more complex. I think it is an arrangement of aspects that are putting all the planets into a harmonic balance, an energizing structure. That is going beyond the conjunction aspect. The reason probably why the public is being fed the conjunction theory is because for the untrained outsider, that is the easiest to grasp. However, it doesn't cause anything to happen in the real world. We should look into the aspect of oppositions.

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